A while I go I asked you how "mac-ish" you want Notes 8.5 on the Mac to be.

Thanks for the responses, I read every one. I met yesterday with our Mac visual designer  (Carrie) and  the developer in charge of the Mac theme (Chris) and we made a few decisions. For example, we agreed to make the status bar icons monochrome, and center the status message. We also agreed that we want the selected tab to  have the "upside down" look-- that is, it bleeds into the top.  We want to make the toolbar separators a "dot" like on other Mac apps, and more things like that.

One place where we backed off was the toolbar butons. We discussed re-drawing the toolbar icons to have a mac look, and we discussed  paring down the number of buttons on the toolbar, for a more Mac feel. After some investigation, we concluded that we do not have the time or resources to redo ALL the toolbar icons (there are a lot!) and also to test them to make sure all the conditionalization works to show the right toolbar on the right platform.   We (eventually, after a bunch of  metaphorical hand-wringing)  decided NOT to pare down the toolbars, either. Our rationale is-- (in addition to worrying about whether we can fit it into the 8.5 cycle), that since we are not giving the buttons a Mac look, then even paring them down would not help THAT much. Please bear in mind, however, that in 8.0  in general, we  pared down the toolbars so that only the context-sensitive one  and search show up by default.

We'll keep you posted on other Mac deisgn issues as they arise. We're working on photoshop pictures right now. I may or may not post them-- I don't want to get your hopes up too high in case the actual rendering is not quite as beautiful as Carrie's pictures.